Curious, if one has a resident card, does time in Portugal count towards the 90/180 day stay rule within the Schengen area for US citizens? For example if I stayed in Portugal for 6 consecutive months, could I still spend 90 days in another Schengen country immediately after?
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No it doesn’t. If it did and you were living full-time in Portugal, you wouldn’t ever be able to go anywhere else in Schengen.
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I had same non-stamping experience in MUC both enter and exit last year. When i asked the guards, both told them non-stamping for Schengen residents. When i requested, they obliged as a “souvenir”.
Interesting that Germany has this policy, since we always enter the Schengen Area (from the U.S.) via Germany. Explains our experience. I will definitely be more attentive if we enter through another country.
Has anyone heard of any recent clarification on the requirement to maintain a valid residence permit while applying or waiting for citizenship?
I have heard (from different lawyers) several conflicting variations including:
-valid residence permit is not required at any stage
-valid residence permit is required only at application stage
-valid residence permit is required at document check stage of citizenship process
-valid residence permit is recommended during entire process in case application is rejected.
I wish there was a consistent answer.
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This is what I’ve heard.
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From what I’ve heard, you need to definitely have a valid residency when you apply. Later on when your documents are up for a check you’ll need to have that valid as well. I read on this forum that extended validity duration may not be sufficient and it can be used as an excuse to put your application on hold.
Not but last as no one really knows when the actual analysis will take place it is advised to maintain residency - this is indeed what my lawyers have suggested me. I am also told that for renewal I would need to have spent 14 days - whereas previously there were auto renewals that didn’t require the full 14 day stay for 2 year period.
Probably you need to spend 7 days per year to fulfill the regulations which specify
- 7 days in first year
- 14 days in subsequent 2 year periods
Since the first card is no longer 1 year validity, but 2 years validity, so is split over 1. and 2.
didn’t require proof of the 14 day stay
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For me its more about “valid residence CARD” — is it absolutely required when submitting citizenship application. My lawyer has said yes and so have a few folks here.
However, many of us here have family members whose cards have expired. With no visibility of if/when they can renew, I am in the group whose 5 year is coming up soon and thus cannot apply for citizenship.
I dont like that requirement when its not our fault that AIMA wont let us get the cards. I would argue if AIMA issue a valid “contagem do tempo” then we should be allowed to apply… esp when the expired cards are valid per the decree (til 6/25)…
Fun continues…
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Hello, does anyone have any updates on how the renewal for the renewal card is to be done presently? My first card expires in May 2025 and is a real-estate GV. I looked through many of the threads but couldn’t find specific renewal information for the real-estate GV vs the current GV. AIMA’s ARI portal does not allow registration for this type of investment. So for those of us who invested in real estate and whose 1st card is coming up for renewal - do we email AIMA as a D2 Renewal and request for appointment?
Can someone explain me why minors do have to apply citizenship after parents got citizenship? Our golden card process started together. Why does my son has to wait until my citizenship process to be completed?
It’s clear in the citizenship law: https://diariodarepublica.pt/dr/legislacao-consolidada/lei/1981-34536975
Naturalization is covered by Secção III (Aquisição da nacionalidade por naturalização) Artigo 6.º
For people not born in Portugal, only adults can naturalize via 5 years residence (Artigo 6.º 1.):
1 - O Governo concede a nacionalidade portuguesa, por naturalização, aos estrangeiros que satisfaçam cumulativamente os seguintes requisitos:
a) Serem maiores ou emancipados à face da lei portuguesa;
Translation:
1 - The Government grants Portuguese nationality, by naturalization, to foreigners who cumulatively meet the following requirements:
a) Be of legal age or emancipated under Portuguese law;
Children can also naturalize, but only if they were physically born in Portugal (Artigo 6.º 2.):
2 - O Governo concede a nacionalidade, por naturalização, aos menores nascidos no território português
Translation:
2 - The Government grants nationality, by naturalization, to minors born in Portuguese territory
So the main path to citizenship for children is instead Secção I (Aquisição da nacionalidade por efeito da vontade) Artigo 2.º, which requires the parents to first acquire it:
(Aquisição por filhos menores ou incapazes)
Os filhos menores ou incapazes de pai ou mãe que adquira a nacionalidade portuguesa podem também adquiri-la, mediante declaração.
Translation:
(Acquisition by minor or incapacitated children)
The minor or incapacitated children of a father or mother who acquires Portuguese nationality may also acquire it, by means of a declaration.
This can also be opposed if there is lack of an “effective connection”:
Artigo 9.º
(Fundamentos)
1 - Constituem fundamento de oposição à aquisição da nacionalidade portuguesa por efeito da vontade: a) A inexistência de ligação efectiva à comunidade nacional;
Translation:
1 - The following are grounds for opposing the acquisition of Portuguese nationality by will: a) The lack of an effective link to the national community;
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