Awaiting Biometrics (Stage 3)

Lawsuit was submitted today!

  • Dependents: GV submitted in April 2020
  • Pre-approval June 2020
  • First biometric was given in 2021 and could not be done due to Covid situation.
  • Trying to schedule again by phone/email but hopeless.
  • Lawsuit submitted June 2024 (after 4 years) :joy:
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Could anyone here tell me that my case was filed as normal ?

I believe that it was filed as normal but i might be wrong.

I have mentioned countless times that i wanted to file it as urgentā€¦

:face_with_monocle:

Now it might be the question of how to unfile this one and re-file it properly as ā€œurgentā€.

Not urgent. Looked like what I got in my 1st lawsuit. My case failed. Maybe we have the same lawyer :rofl:

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This came up here

I had the same on my case file but it was treated as urgent, which is what my lawyer said they requested, so I assumed it means something different in this context.

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Thanks!!! Full of $-&:&&:$); with the lawyer. Suck up my money and screw up everything is all they can do. :exploding_head::face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

I think your case failed has nothing to do with being registered urgently or normally. It failed because of the judge. As it said in other posts, there are 4 judges and 1 of them always stay against GV applicants. The rest 3 are supporter of GV. Someone here failed also in first attempt, and tried again and won the case.

Thanks for the clarification. I pray for what they did. Endless confusion!!! :pray::pray::pray::pray::pray::pray:

Generally speaking, donā€™t be afraid to ask tons of questions until you understand. There is no such thing as a stupid question, especially when youā€™re paying them.

Law isnā€™t impossible, you should be able to follow whatā€™s happening if it is explained

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Just for general info, I received pre-approval (original app 12/29/2021) in mid January 2024. Apparently I got pretty lucky and got a biometrics slot in Portimao 02/23/2024. However, my daughter was also pre-approved and Iā€™ve heard nothing regarding her biometrics. Also, there was a request for renewed documents (proof of marriage, proof of enrollment) for my wife and other daughter, which the lawyers have appealed.

I have heard literally nothing about any of this since February. What a mess!

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Do you mind sharing why it failed? I am thinking about filing mine and would like to learn which pitfalls to avoid

My case was considered to be non urgent by the judge. This is a common verdict by one of the judges I believe.

I wanted to share our experience with the Portuguese Golden Visa application process, which has been quite a rollercoaster. Hereā€™s our timeline and the ups and downs we faced:

Pre-Approval: February 2021

Invitation for Biometrics: December 2021 (We only discovered this in May 2023. Our lawyer didnā€™t inform us back in December 2021, claiming it was COVID times and we wouldnā€™t be able to make it, so he didnā€™t bother to tell us).

Frustrated with our lawyerā€™s lack of communication and the slow Portuguese system, we switched to a new lawyer in September 2023. This was a game-changer for us as the new lawyer is very responsive and proactive.

In October 2023, we also appointed another lawyer to sue SEF (the immigration authorities). However, in December 2023, our case was ruled as not urgent, and we didnā€™t get a new appointment. We filed an appeal through the same lawyer but havenā€™t heard back yet.

Then, out of the blue, yesterday, our new lawyer (the one handling our application, not the court case) informed us that we got an appointment for the whole family (myself, my wife, and our two kids) in Lisbon on 1st August 2024!

Finally, after waiting for over three years (3.5 years from our initial application), weā€™re about to enter the next stage.

Honestly, Iā€™ve lost a lot of confidence in this process and the country. But after spending a fortune on purchasing a flat, weā€™ll continue with our application. This whole experience has significantly deviated from our original plan, and weā€™ve already identified alternative options in another country to fit our needs.

But still, itā€™s good news, right?

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Are you living in PT, out of curiosity?

Iā€™ve had a variation on this thought, as I imagine a lot of other GV investors will be having: is this a country whose bureaucracy I trust enough to continue investing in? I live here in PT and am happy on a day to day basis, but after the experiences with SEF/AIMA, I am hesitant to put another Euro into anything domestic. Whereas, had the project been properly administered, I would have likely been interested in making a bunch of other investments here. Makes you wonder what the opportunity cost is for them, in turning away potential capital.

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I also live in PT full time. In my opinion, PT is not a place to invest. I would invest in a non-EU country. I feel that by putting 350k in fund I have invested enough in Portugal. Every country has its own pro and con. Portugal is only good to enjoy food and peaceful life. For invest, it is not going to happen even in my wildest dream.

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If at all possible, avoid Lisbon, though final approvals are slow everywhere lately it seems

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The people donā€™t want more capital, if anything they want real estate investments to go down.

I would definitely not recommend Lisbon. I had a bio appointment there in September 2023, which did not happen, because the system was down. They promised to call my lawyer back and reschedule. Up to this day, almost a year after, I have not heard from them at all.

I donā€™t live in PT.

I have decided on the same thing. Not another penny. No business, no company, no employment on my payroll in Portugal.
Portugal only wants our money but not us.

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Maybe it is a good news for those who are waiting for biometric.
Govt will ask all kind of governmentā€™s offices to serve people without having appointment.

In the article, it does not mention when this thing will start and if this happens, AIMA will serve without appointment or not.

Atendimento diĆ”rio, presencial e sem marcaĆ§Ć£o passa a ser obrigatĆ³rio em todos os serviƧos pĆŗblicos