We have similar application dates. The problem with option 3 is that the rejection might not come in until year 7/8.
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You people who applied in 2025 need to take a nap and relax. You are clogging up the tubes that should be saved for people who have been in the system for many years already.
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Yep. I donât see anyway around it unless we bail completely on the process which is always an option for, most likely, every person here.
I have a question for those who submitted an early application:
Did anyone submit an early citizenship application by mail? I was advised by one attorney that it might be more advantageous than on-line submittal.
If you have any experience, please advise.
Thanks!
What was their thinking? Better proof of submission date? Or ability to direct your application to a specific office (supposedly some are much faster)?
I can tell the years of frustration are wearing on you. Hoping I wonât be in the same spot down the road but itâs completely possible.
Hopefully it makes you feel better @ohbee that as far as I can tell, most newer applicants arenât applying early for citizenship. Us included. So we are indeed chilling out and taking naps for now.
Those clogged tubes are all yours 
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Honestly, I donât know. It was their suggestion, but I was rather hesitant to consider such a route. If my application be lost in the mail and the date would appear after the new law is enacted, the whole process is worthless. I just wanted to see if anyone used this approach by any chance.
Iâve been observing âmailâ option in many groups. The earliest (that I saw) that the tracking code was sent was after 1 month of mail delivered. The longest wait is 9 months.
The tricky part is that although you send application by mail on 1st May, the process code (tracking code) is always months later than 1st May. Then you use the tracking online to log in online and it shows âsubmetido: date/month/yearâ which is a month or months later than the date that you sent by CTT.
It is understandable that the âsubmetidoâ date is the date when IRN officer opens your mail and inputs your application into the system.
Hence it is very likely that the âsubmetidoâ date is going to be considered as the âofficial submission dateâ in later stage.
The only way to get the âtracking codeâ on the same day of submission is to apply in person (which I already reported in other post). However, do expect that it might be challenging at the moment because everybody is rushing to insert their application in a narrow period of time.
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Thank you, Nam, for the detailed explanation. I have abandoned that route.
This is a terrible situation. I believe that in April 2023 IRN introduced the possibility of linking Art 2 applications to a parentâs 6.1 application. We submitted in Feb 2023 (and are still waiting) so we only heard about it from our lawyers after the fact. It makes sense in terms of efficiencies, although I read somewhere that it hadnât been working particularly well on the IRN side because Art 2 and 6.1 go into different work streams. I donât know if it is still possible, but it might be worth canvassing with your lawyers if it means you can actually put in a 100% legit Art 2 application now. I have said this before - I really think the impact of these amendments on minors, and also AIMA and IRNâs inefficiencies, is probably the most ripe for litigation. It is so clearly iniquitous.
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I hit the 5 year mark in October this year, Should I send citizenship application just incase before the new law start kicking in?
Thatâs what I will be doingâŚ
Thanks for your understanding Lala. I actually canât sleep at night trying to decide what to do. My lawyer is just not caring (in other words her opinion is that there is no chance that my son can apply before he is 18 and no chance that I can apply Under article 2 because I only have a tracking number). She is most unhelpful. She seems to say, wait for the legislation and then we can bring a case particular to our circumstances. Thank-you for sharing your situation - I will look into this.
Did your daughter do her own application or did you apply under Article 2? I am still trying to make a decision what to do although my lawyer is being very unhelpful and seems to think I have no chance.
I think if you use registered mail and have the date of when it arrived, you could use that argument in court (which is basically what you will be doing anyway with the 5 vs 10 years).
The system has rotten to its core. Bringing it to court might take 3-5 years or youâll never receive any decision. Look at what court could do things to AIMA. Same thing applies to IRN. They are all the same. Surely one could try it. Me, no way. I just donât want to waste time anymore.
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So just need to get âsubmited â application date beofore the law kicks in even passing the all requirements such as A2 language certificate ? I heard that if i apply through lawyer like NSM they have their own portal for the citizenship application, Do we get that âsubmittedâ status on my application quicker ? How yall gonna do to apply?
Every question youâve asked is already answered - in some cases numerous times - in the earlier posts in this thread.
I donât think this is the case â it is an IRN on-line portal that only lawyers can access. Thatâs why I will enlist help of a lawyer that would be willing to apply early on my behalf.
Hi Matt, can you share the whatsapp group link with me as well please. Thank you
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