PGV / ARI Rage, Tragedy, & General Madness

Deflation (prices going down) is only bad for a debt based system. Prices going down in a sound money standard is good for the people because things get cheaper, including houses as technology and the free market create more value.

The debt based fiat proponents say it is bad so they can justify stealing those gains from the people. Which they do and why we see the world in the state it is in.

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There’s a lot I could say. However I’d say all this is a moot point because short of a world crisis and a shattering of the world order, the chances of going back to some sort of non-fiat currency is between slim and none, and Slim’s headed for the door.

The topic is also pretty tangential to the main theme of this thread, namely bitching and raging about our ARI situations. Portugal has the same unsound money as everyone else. :slight_smile: If you want to discuss, then another thread is appropriate.

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Dang, nobody told me about this ‘fast track’ :slight_smile:

Judicial Police conducted searches at AIMA in the Azores on suspicion of corruption.

Employees would receive incentives for expediting some processes at the expense of others, including golden visa applications.

Suspicions of corruption are at the heart of the searches carried out this Wednesday by the Judicial Police at the Ponta Delgada office of the Agency for Integration, Migration and Asylum (AIMA).

“The investigation concerns suspicions of illicit acts by public officials, consisting of the undue prioritization of certain services and the processing of cases, in exchange for financial compensation,” explains the police in a statement. PÚBLICO understands that the investigation involves, among other things, the granting of golden visas , although it is not yet clear whether the issuance of some of these residence permits in the country was simply expedited or whether visas were also granted to foreigners who did not meet the legal requirements. In addition to corruption, other crimes are also being investigated in this inquiry led by the Department of Investigation and Criminal Action of the Azores judicial district: abuse of power and undue receipt of advantage.

The same press release, which does not specify which public body was targeted by this operation, dubbed “Direct Line,” reports that the searches also covered three residences, “allowing the seizure of a significant amount of documentation, especially computer data and electronic correspondence.” The investigation has not yet resulted in any suspects.

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Meh. Nothing will happen.

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Some of AIMA’s meagre processing capacity was in the Azores. I do wonder if that capacity will be put on the bench pending this investigation?
= even less AIMA processing capacity!

Maybe there will be no result in the future


Crime, corruption, abuse of power
.are always there from the first day. When the cake is not shared “equally”, the investigation has to be executed in order to make the slices more equal.

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Uh
 no Rui
 AIMA continues to spectacularly fail in its basic tasks, except maybe in collecting money and not delivering :angry:

In an interview with Lusa, Rui Armindo Freitas, who is also the Deputy Secretary of State to the Presidency

Today, “people can trust Portugal’s immigration system because the State is functioning in its basic tasks,” he promised

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Law has been promulgated.

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Portugal’s President Signs Nationality Law, Doubles Citizenship Timeline - IMI Daily

I warned you.

I warned you again and again and again.

You called me a pessimist, doomer, and fearmonger. You said my views were not “useful information” and ran other threads “off the rails”.

Anger is not a useless emotion. Anger is a sign that you are being treated wrongly. More importantly, anger is a motivator.

My anger motivated me to make other arrangements. Did you even listen to yours? Or did you ignore it, stuff it away, tell yourself everything would be fine?

My anger may also motivate me to file a lawsuit. Or it may motivate me to live my best life elsewhere, and never waste another Eurocent on Portugal.

But I will listen to my anger, and I hope you listen to yours.

“Down, down, down into the darkness of the grave
Gently they go, the beautiful, the tender, the kind;
Quietly they go, the intelligent, the witty, the brave.
I know. But I do not approve. And I am not resigned.”
― Edna St. Vincent Millay

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Translating the last two paragraphs of the president statement his words seem encouraging for a grandfather clause:

So I translated the statement that you linked and the last two paragraphs seem encouraging for possible future grandfather- what do you think?

_The President of the Republic points out the importance of ensuring that pending processes are not - effectively - affected by the legislative amendment, which would constitute an undesirable breach of confidence in the State, internally and externally.

Finally, the President of the Republic also points out the importance of the counting of the legally fixed deadlines for obtaining nationality not being affected by the slowness of the State._

Unless I’ve missed something, those words by the President have no legal impact on the law he signed.

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Agreed
 if the President wanted to put any teeth into his sentiment he would have referred it to the TC with those concerns. Instead he just rolled over and played dead, and the Government is free to do whatever it wants.

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Yes, you did! I admit I attempted to keep a positive outlook on these issues for as long as possible. The Portuguese populus have proven you right, and now is the time for a legal fight if one is still possible
 or even worth the effort (in the very worst case)!

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We had the sense last autumn that this was inevitable and we discussed leaving then but thought it was the prudent course to wait and see what the final wording would be. Now we know.

Both of us wish we had pulled the pin and left at Xmas. By waiting we now need to renew just to give us time and flexibility so we can, firstly, sell this house and consider other options. Ireland :ireland: is lovely this time of year. What is most annoying is that we are going to have to pay AIMA for this renewal, knowing that we won’t renew again. I can’t see us sticking this out. We’re tired of the fight.

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I am mad, but I just don’t have the energy for a legal fight. Or, more practically, it’s likely a bottomless pit of lawyer fees, and at some point you gotta cut your losses. I almost regret filing early, that was $4k I fear was thrown on a sucker bet. And I already am going to be out 20k on PR, unless something changes in the next year in my life that says we ditch portugal entirely, but my wife loves the beach. What I need to decide is whether to say f it and go for the cheap PR or not. I hate to hand them that much more money.

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I keep listening to my ARI rage playlist, over and over and over. It never gets old. For those who aren’t aware of it or its contents, here you go. :wink:

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The best possible Freudian typo in this situation:

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Indeed
, but I shall correct it for the grammer sake! :slightly_smiling_face:

That fits me!!!

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That’s a fantastic song. Iron Maiden’s Wasted Years works for many of us too!

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