Portugal Golden Visa is a scam - endless waits, misleading information and outright lies

The recent anti immigration and protectionist bent of so many countries is terrible. Incredibly frustrating to see populism do well.

But I suppose that’s a topic for another forum

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I don’t fault the citizens of a country. If I want to become a citizen, I think I should prove that I bring something of value. I don’t mean prove in a literal sense, but rather to show by my actions that I am contributing to society. Not just show up expecting a free lunch. Its hard to break through the negative drum beat of articles bashing foreigners for rising home prices and inflation. Really, the estrangeiros need a lobby to explain how much investment and jobs are created. Until then, expect more of the same cold stares.

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Immigrants, even unskilled, are very good for a country and a net benefit in many ways. Feel free to PM or start a thread if you’d like and I can link you some sources

As for real estate, portugal seems to make it very difficult to build, otherwise all the new people coming in could build new housing. To a point, old buildings can be renovated, but that doesn’t massively increase t he housing supply like actual new construction would

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The point of posting is to prevent others from making the same mistake I made. If I had read such a clear-eyed account before I invested, I would have chosen differently.

At the time, I thought it was “just Covid” that was causing all the delays. It wasn’t.

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A quick search of NomadGate reveals numerous posts from PGV applicants whose applications have been stuck for multiple years. Pre-approval is only the beginning of the story.

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Will the PR card really be honored in times of crisis? We already saw PR’s abandoned and locked out by numerous countries during COVID. Even if certain EU countries didn’t do this during COVID, what about the next crisis?

May be right about this. Europe hasn’t at all been spared the rise of xenophobia and populism, and this is terrible news for those looking to immigrate. May be time to look elsewhere…

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You can’t really know. And in panic situations, even citizens can get screwed. We’ve seen that.

By and large, PRs tend to have rights over TRs. And if you achieve EU long term resident status, you have legal standing to demand it since it’s right there in black and white that you are basically equiv of a citizen.

Like where? Frankly it’s all a mess, and your only real answer is to have several ports in the storm and hope one works out, if that’s your concern. There really is only about so much you can do.

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Yeah, this article basically says SEF hasnt really existed since April '21… So what we have seen since then are just the scraps…

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Like I said, Portugal is a bigger mess. I warned you all…

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