Itās after Easter when the actual bill language was supposed to be released. Any news?
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We have moved from CA to Portugal (well, permanently), and our accountant took over the ātax addressā in the U.S. He said unequivocally that we can just stop āclaimingā CA residence. If you leave CA, it should save you good 10 to 12% of āsquandering your money on useless programmesā. Of course, you are still liable for the Fed plus SS plus Medicareā¦ Got to love your taxman!
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I was offline for a couple of weeks and have been trying to figure out what happened with the bill - and went through most of the thread but was unable to find a good article to tell me what the current status is - has that bill been voted on? Is there a final version that we can read and understand of the bill? If not, when is that expected?
Also, I saw some articles that suggest that the KEY feature of the golden visa (7 day stay) is definitely now gone and retroactively to all applications? What is the point of this visa if that is the case, even if the bill does not make the other changes orginally contemplated?
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In brief:
16th Feb: first announcements about end of GV
3rd Mar: draft legislation published: applications after 16th Feb to be rejected, all else grandfathered except new real estate lease provisions on renewals
30th Mar: new announcements: everyone to be converted into a normal permit, either on first issuance or renewal. Implies (though not quite clear) 7/14 day minimum stay is replaced by usual X month rules
As of now: No new draft legislation has yet emerged. Expected to go to parliament this or next week. Once legislation emerges, expect more discussion about whether key provisions are constitutional. Presidentās position on this unknown. May refer to Constitutional Court.
Yes, if the common understanding of what the government proposes is correct, and if it all goes through, then it makes the GV pointless. But a lot of road to travel before we get to that point.
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Thanks for the clear update - I thought there was supposed to be debate last week of March on this, so looks like some of that did not happen yetā¦ And things have actually gotten worse with the residence requirement being a new target 
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Other thing to catch you up on is that with the second draft has also come a lot of opposition from interested quarters. Thereās a petition pinned here which is worth sharing to continue adding to that sentiment. Thereās also been some initial coordination and thinking around viability of legal challenges if required.
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SEF is being dissolved and a new agency will be created within 6 months. Hoping this will speed things up!
You are new here, arenāt you?
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Draw your own conclusions from these two articles:
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Ok, here is a poll to assess your interpretation of the articles.
- Portugal is welcoming of all types of immigrants.
- Government is hypocrypitical for condeming the number of GV applications, while admitting 10 times that amount in one month of other visa types.
- The Portugal News article is incomplete.
- Brazilians love Portugal.
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I have just received a response from my lawyer regarding how probable it would be that the proposed āMais HabitaĆ§Ć£oā would pass, terminating or substantially altering the GV process. Her response was that, as a contributing member to the Commission to study the effects of ending GV, she seriously doubts this programme would end anytime soon:
āā¦ the proposal [ā¦] is unconstitutional and our president already said that will not approve the said proposalā. āTherefore, everything is as it was, and I believe it will continue like that for a long time!ā
It might not be enough to calm everyoneās jitters, but it should give you another point of view from the local perspective.
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Note - there have been a number of posts in this topic about citizenship/naturalisation - these have been moved to the topic Portuguese Citizenship application after 5 years of Golden Visa
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The ARI approval records are going to be coming every month for a while, given how much applications skyrocketed in 2021 and how long they are taking to processā¦
I also question IMI Dailyās understanding of the situation and process. Their chart says āapplicants by monthā but a) the numbers seem very low, b) they show no drop in application from Jan-Jun 2022, c) I donāt think SEF even publishes application data, only approvals, and d) the source they claim doesnt contain the data in the chart.
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Just to confirm, they are just processing Dec 2021 - Jan 2022 applications now, right?
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Dec 2021, yes. Havent seen any Jan 2022 mentions.
Via Euronews: Portugalās golden visa ban has received mixed responses - hereās why Portugalās golden visa ban has received mixed responses - hereās why | Euronews
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According to this article, the proposals will be presented to Parliament this week (presumably today):
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