Thank you for the fast response. will do.
It is been already addressed but just to be more specific, for those people who has booked an appointment for renewal, their residency card is extended by further 6 months - at least this is stated in some articles. Please feel free to check this with lawyers.
So given that the nationality law discussions are expected to happen this week, applying ASAP is super critical for people who might be just get in before rules change.
All the best!
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I have asked my lawyer and she said that for me, no problem. But for my wife, her card expired in April 2025,
and from the law, booking renewal appointment is not enough (I also heard in this platform that only people that their residency card expired from 1 July 2025 and have appointment date will qualify for 180 days extension. Before that date, you must have a renewal payment receipt to qualify for 180 days extension). That my wife will need to pay on the appointment day and receive a payment receipt and wait till April 2026 for the new card to be issued. She said she canât apply for citizenship with expired residency card. That the only way she can apply in December 2025 is, if the national law moves the 15 October deadline to end of December 2025, that is beyond our citizenship application date. And for that, nobody knows.
Considering whatâs at stake, Iâd really suggest getting 2nd and 3rd opinions from other lawyers. Iâve personally found the forum to be right and my lawyer wrong at least once already.
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Interesting, here isthe full text of the law: Decreto-Lei 85-B/2025
2-ApĂłs 15 de outubro de 2025, os documentos respeitantes a autorizaçÔes de residĂȘncia serĂŁo aceites mediante a apresentação pelo seu titular de documento comprovativo do pagamento do pedido da respetiva renovação, emitido pela AgĂȘncia para a Integração, MigraçÔes e Asilo, IP (AIMA, IP), com validade de 180 dias, contados a partir da sua emissĂŁo.
Seems by the letter of the law, there is no extension beyond Oct 15 without paying a DUC. And the DUC is only paid at the appointment itself?
If so that sounds like a clusterf waiting to happen on Oct 16.
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This is perhaps not as huge of a problem for people from countries with visa waiver. But if you are from a country with no visa waiver, if you enter Portugal or any other Schengen country you are violating EU laws and can be deported and banned from the Schengen zone for 5 years. Technically, even being in Portugal is an overstay and you would suffer the same fate if you are caught. This is a shitty situation.
A lot of people on ARIâs that are living in Portugal full-time will technically be illegal aliens on October 16, given that renewal appointments (if you can get one) are 3-4 months out (late December and January for us). That could mean canceling travel, including holidays, out of Portugal until DUC is paid.
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Well, I donât think itâs that bad.
As long as one can prove the renewal appointment has been scheduled, their permit remains valid.
https://diariodarepublica.pt/dr/legislacao-consolidada/decreto-lei/2020-130241777
Besides, after attending the renewal appointment, the previously expired permit remains valid as well (until the new one is printed that is..).
Just double-checking, the 6 months extension with the payment of the final fee actually takes place on the appointment day, am I right?
You are right, but itâs a moot point legally - see my post in the Renewals thread:
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To clarify, on the appointment day you would receive a âconfirmation receipt of renewal applicationâ, and that would be valid on the same terms as the permit itself for the duration of 60 days, renewable 
(In practice, I doubt anyone goes to AIMA just to ask them for a ârenewed receipt of a renewal appointmentâ every 60 days 
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Itâs looking like everyone (including CPLP countries) are getting roped into 10 years wait for citizenship, good news is that for those of you on 5 years, you can apply for citizenship because the retroactivity has been stamped out.
Whatâs your source re: retroactivity? I strongly suspect youâre confusing a few different things
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The D day is here, 15 Oct 2025. Probably within the next week, some clarification on processes will be made clear.
Not quite D-day. Today is a Commission hearing.
The final version still has to be discussed in Plenary, and a vote taken in a plenary session in Parliament. I havent seen it included in the Agenda for October, but likely before the Budget sessions 27/28.
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The government will hire 50 new technicians to resolve delays in nationality processes.
November 1, 2025, 9:30 AM
âŠAlthough consulates process applications relatively quickly, the final validation phase at the IRN (National Registry Office) in Portugal has been identified as the main bottleneck. This difference in processing times between citizens residing in the country and those living abroad has generated criticism of unequal treatment of Portuguese citizens in the diaspora, who claim to feel discriminated against.
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50 technicians ?! What does a âtechnicianâ do ? GeezâŠ
They should bite the bullet, pay a motza and get a McKinseyâs or Bain in to actually do some workflow analysis hereâŠ
Between SEF/AIMA & IRN, I would guarantee on my last breath that there is so much wasted time in bureaucratic paper shuffling, duplicated procedures and inadequate performance criteria, that they would pay for the audit in spades with proper (simplified) procedures and performance managementâŠ
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I would love to see McKinsey try to do an audit of AIMA.
âSo here we have our dart board. We put all the appointments up on the wall, and each morning we ask our employees to throw a dart, the appointment we hit is the one we send. Yes unfortunately sometimes families do get split up, but we find itâs more fun for everyone.â
âOh that other wall over there? Thatâs the GV wall or as we sometimes call it the ârich investors wallâ, we donât throw darts over there, only sometimes when weâre afraid weâre going to lose their money.â
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I have my 5-year period under current law finishing on Jan 5th, making myself eligible for the citizenship application. All the documents I have in hands legalized and translated. My law firm advises me to submit application before the eligibility date in case the law change will seem to pass. Do you have any ideas if this approach has any chance for success?
Someone else also mentioned that in the other threadâŠ
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