Germany's proposed nationality law (3-5 years to citizenship)

A1 was two weeks in the course I took, A2 another two or three iirc. This was like five hours a day

Sadly, many (most?) of us are not from developing countries I suspect…

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That is actually not a requirement according to Luxembourg’s own website: Conditions of residence in Luxembourg for private reasons for third-country nationals — Business — - Administrative Guide - Luxembourg

It’s just that if you don’t have visa-free access to Luxembourg, you must get a D visa, so I guess the process is slightly more involved.

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Hmmm… looks quite do-able… you’ve just about sold me …

Although if you don’t mind my asking, if you don’t mind living in the EU full time, why didn’t you just do Portugal’s D7 in the first place? It’s reportedly always been cheaper and faster processed than GV. And unlike the Luxembourg version, you’re allowed to work on D7.

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I didn’t and probably still don’t want to be full-time in a place - at least in the early years of the 5 that become 8 - 9…
I don’t work.
Aaron’s view is fair - I too lived in Germany for a time - Munich would be quite nice …
Peter Starts view above about the 3 C’s & etc of PT is also quite true - I sat on my balcony with a caipirinha overlooking the Tagus in 25 degree balmy weather last night, which I’m sure I couldn’t do in Lux. or München…
It all becomes somewhat conflicting but the current debacle of “delays” compared to the sold vision of 5 years is quite galling.
And it’ll probably all be thrown into further conflict with the EU proposal for 3 year residencies getting up & possibly later changing the passport regimes too.

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They just changed the law on this a few weeks ago… Immigration: new restrictions on residence permits for personal reasons - Lexology
Not so easy to walk in anymore.

What a stupid charge

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I feel the hand of Ursula in there somewhere (again) …

What do you think about other germanic countries in EU? I have noticed other germanic/culturally neighboring countries such as Austria, Netherlands etc have similar governmental institutions and resemble that of Germany. Is there a chance Netherlands/Austria will follow suit to undo the previous citizenship relinquishment rule?

Curacao residency by investment becomes much more attractive if Netherlands goes the way of Germany.

Absolutely no chance Austria changes its citizenship laws in the next decade. It would be deeply unpopular. Netherlands I don’t know.

Do you think Germany’s institutions are better than e.g. Sweden? Sweden currently allows dual citizenship, only requires 5 years residence to naturalization, and doesn’t even require a language test (although I think they may plan to add one).

Having lived in the Netherlands for a decade in the 2000’s, I don’t think the dual citizenship law will change after the change in 2003. There would be no political advantage to allow dual citizenship via naturalisation and sections of the political class and media (back then) thought that supporting dual citizenship routes via naturalisation would lead to higher benefits fraud.

Like Austria, I would say no chance of law changing to allow dual citizenship in The Netherlands.

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Residency requirements have been relaxed. Perhaps a good sign for nationality changes.

Perhaps a good way to remain an EU candidate?

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Well the way this archetypal Balkans bandit behaves, I’m guessing it will be at least 5 to 10 years before they get to join the EU…

Optimistic, aren’t we

Serbia would be another Poland or Hungary, in terms of maliciousness within the EU. I don’t expect any more expansion until Brussels sorts out their unanimity problem

I read thru some of the articles - I am not sure there are any changes for those of us that may have German descent but whose parents were not German at the time of our birth (due to parents having to renounce to have citizenship elsewhere)?