The child never had the GV investment in the first place, so it would be difficult for them to claim GV independently.
The only question is whether you can apply for PR (or GV PR) purely on the basis of 5 years residence (which the child would meet) plus the language requirements etc, and hence no longer rely on family reunification.
Also, presumably the GV PR doesn’t require the investment any more (as otherwise the child would never be eligible for it).
I think that’s the catch, the GV PR does require the original investment (at least for the primary applicant). I think you’d need to ask a lawyer what the case is if the primary applicant subsequently gets citizenship.
our attorney stated that children can maintain PR status even without the original GV investment. So basically, parents first obtain citizenship through GV, then children obtain PR. After this you are free to sell the investment. The children can then obtain citizenship anytime in the future as long as they keep renewing the PR (which has the same 7 day/year visit requirement). This is all assuming that the children were on the original GV application. Has anyone else’s attorney advised differently?
Does this mean that the child has to attend school in Portugal for all five years prior to a naturalization application, or just be attending school during the naturalization process?
@globextrader good question, you could ask your lawyer.
But that is only to have a 100% undeniable presumption of connection. I have had several lawyers say that smaller proofs are also accepted.
My lawyer says neither. If they’re at school in Portugal then the connection to Portugal is considered automatic. If they’re not at school you need to prove connection in other ways.
Selina, Thanks for sharing your lawyers comments on this issue. Did he mention what the other ways of showing our childrens connection to Portugal would be?
The main one is 5 years’ residency via the GV.
Does your lawyer know if this 5 years residency is counted from application like citizenship is now? Otherwise there could be a mismatch where e.g.
Application year: 2022
Card granted year: 2026
Parents apply citizenship: 2027 (5 years since 2022)
Parents get citizenship, apply for children: 2029. Children have only held GV cards 3 years?
I don’t know, I suspect this is the kind of detail that no one knows as no one has got citizenship based on date of application yet.
Children under 18 do not have the same residency requirements. I believe they qualify for citizenship through their parents, only after the parents are citizens.
Yes that’s correct, but if they’re not at school in Portugal (an automatic connection), then they need to prove other “connections”.
I have recently received my ARI residence card and my two dependent sons (Over 18, both just graduated this year from university) under the family reunification.
I have a question about remarks in the dependent residence card.
There is remark on the back of the card shows “permite o exercício de activ. profissional”. I believe it is indicating that they are allowed to engage in professional activities such as working in Portugal.
I would like to clarify a few points regarding the renewal of my residence card:
1. Will engaging in professional activities (such as working in Portugal) affect or reject the renewal of their residence card?
2. Anyone who renew GV famaily reunification over 18, what documents had to submit when renewing family reunification residence card for over 18?
Since all the family reunification is approved based on dependency of main applicant, I was thinking that them working in Portugal could jeopardize the renewal in the future. (I believe they will have to gather the document to proof for their dependency for family reunification renewal??)
One reason i didn’t include children is I have none but expect several in 5 years.
Given such a long process many people will create children during their 5-10 year journey so I’m hopeful I can just include them when I naturalize.
Unless you have a reason to have them elsewhere, them being born in Portugal whilst holding a valid residency yourself would automatically entitle them to a passport I believe.
I think that might require holding a residence card at least one year before the child is born.
One year is the written rule but IRN doesn’t really care about this rule. Loja de Cidadao is more than happy to process the PT nationality for a baby born within the territory and one of the parent is holding a valid residency permit.