My meaning was a bit different than that, but it’s okay. They will learn — AIMA will show them the way.
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Even my lawyer has given the same opinion on visa requiring countries. Worst if in a scenario even if I am able to enter Portugal and there is a need to travel out of Portugal to some other nation outside schengen, we have no rule book on how immigration at airport will behave…i wouldnt want to have any negative remarks on my passport or being barred from entry for overstaying for any time period. I dont know whether a letter from attorney or proof of submitting and paying for application will be enough at the airport. In my prior experience, the same gentleman at Portuguese embassy one time gives importance to attorney letters and at other times rejects them without giving a second thought (applied to the same scenario).
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It has always been my understanding: pre-residence-card ARI applicants from non-visa-free countries will need a visa to enter Portugal, for example, to attend biometric appointment. This why a lot members in this forum were complaining about short notice to attend such appointment due to visa difficulties.
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100% refused to board by airline if you are unable to show a valid Schengen visa. There is a trick that might work. I prepared for that trick but I did not have to pull that off.
First, get the UK visa or Canada visa (easy one). If worst thing happens, book flight to Canada first. Then do not enter Canada. Immediately, move on to TAP Portugal to take a direct flight from Canada to Portugal. Of course, all flights must be booked in advance but you do not show your intention at the beginning that you want to fly to Portugal. Act as if you travel to Canada…maybe I am wrong. I was planning this kind of crazy plan three years ago. But so far luck stays on my side. I did not have to use it. But having good preparation is better than nothing.
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Yes, when I questioned my lawyer, she raised this point as well.
Thank you for the advice but the whole idea of golden visa application was to avoid preparations of this kind. I will better wait for things to progress with my application. I value mobility of travel (legal, unambiguous) over spending any time in Portugal (which has still now only been a source of eternal disappointments).
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Love the creativity, but how would this avoid the problem of TAP (or other airline) refusing to issue the boarding pass to Portugal due to the lack of Schengen visa?
It has to do with travel arrangements between canada/ uk and portugal. But my scenario was about going out of Portugal/ schengen after overstaying trying to explain to immigration that i have legal right to stay in Portugal as my GV application is in progress. Over and above that if u move to Portugal prior to biometric, u have to still ensure that at the time of biomteric u hv valid visa to be in Portugal if u belong to visa requiring nations (the condition which now doesnt apply to u).
As I mentioned, I have not tried this before. The success rate remains unknown. However, let’s consider a more simplified scenario. You’ve got card. But card expired few months ago. You need to go out of Portugal for some personal reasons. Then you want to go back to Portugal. This is the case where you can obviously explain to Tap Portugal that your card is being extended under decree of extension. Print out the decree and show them your expired card with all other documents. Success rate surely increase significantly although nothing is guaranteed.
I wish none of us will fall into this silly situation. 
Of course, if you can wait until you have card in hand, it is perfect then. I agree that the whole idea of GV is to avoid the schengen visa. But it is only when you have GV in hand. Before/during your application of Gv is analised, you are treated worse than the illegal immigrants in Europe. So, we have to protect ourselves and do not expect to be treated fairly by the portuguese govt. The only and best way to get rid of the pain is to try to apply for citizenship as soon as possible. Until then, it is a battle of survival.
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No. My dependents entered Portugal under schengen visa. After 2 months their visas expired. After that 5 months, they completed biometric. Obviously at the time of biometric’s execution, their visa were invalid. After 7 months from biometric, they received cards in hand. They stayed in the country during entire 14 months until they got cards.
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WoW! That is not what my lawyer told me but I will keep that in mind.
You thought people could just waltz in without a visa on the basis of having applied for a visa?
That’s pretty funny 
Some people on this portal sincerely believe so…(not my friend hippo…)
There are dozens of posts on this forum stating that you are legally entitled to live in PT from the moment you submit your ARI application.
So unless this is false, it implies that those who normally need a Schengen visa are entitled to live in Portugal but not to enter Portugal, even from a non-Schengen port of entry, unless they obtain a separate Schengen visa from AIMA under the pretense of entering for tourism purposes despite having already made a residence visa application to AIMA. This is some unfathomable madness, even for AIMA…
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I guess something that commonly confuses people about immigration is the distinction between permission to enter and permission to remain.
You almost always need a visa to enter. For D7, even Schengen Annex II countries need a D7 visa from the consulate first.
GV has a special exception where you only need a Schengen visa (and no visa if you’re an Schengen Annex II national).
As I understand it, Schengen visas are issued by the PT consulates independent of AIMA.
The right to remain in PT (beyond the normal Schengen limits) is a separate issue to the right to enter.
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I was unaware of these latest developments. All I can tell you is that I will be testing the re-entry into Portugal with just an SEF letter in less than two months, flyting through U.K. I will report on my personal experience even if it only provides a singular reference point.
As for the “insults and personal attacks”, I would rather we keep them out of the forum altogether, no matter what the subject or the country. 
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It may confuse people because many countries, including every other foreign country (six) in which I’ve lived or obtained residence, link the two together.
Even in other Schengen countries, a Portuguese residence card allows holders of non-visa-free passports to enter. So the special status of “permitted to remain but not permitted to enter” appears to be specific to ARI (and maybe Manifestação?) in Portugal only.
Does your passport grant you visa-free entry into Portugal?
Not applied for a visa: applied for residency. These are not the same things.