Hello everyone,
I was wondering for those who are on the D type of visas, from what I’ve heard the permanent residence in Portugal allows absence of 30 months in a 3 year period. Does this mean that on a permanent residence you would only need to be present in Portugal 2-3 months per year and still be on a path towards citizenship or would you still need 6 months presence per year?
Yes you are correct. Currently there is no physical residence requirement for citizenship, only legal residence. So if you have PR and satisfy the physical residence for PR, or have GV and satisfy the physical residence for GV, then your legal residence is sufficient to count for citizenship.
But nothing prevents Portugal from changing the law and as we saw with the 5 to 10 year change, the government does not feel bound to grandfather existing residents. So you could have 9 years of legal residence and the government might decide you need 10 years of physical residence to get citizenship. Buyer beware.
I’m confused, everything I read says, “Residency requirement ~183 days per year”.
Regular PR has much longer in-country time requirements and costs a few hundred Euro for a five year card. GV PR (supposedly) has 7 day/year requirement and costs €8000 for a five year card.
From what I’ve read, it says that you’re allowed a 30 months absence in a 3 year period. If you divide 30 months by 3 years it ends up being 10 months of allowed absence in a year from what I understood.
I know that GV folk only need to be present 7 days per year. However, for regular PR I was wondering if they only need 2 months of presence since it says “allowed absence of 30 months in 3 years”
My original D7 visa allowed less time than that. 8 months total in 2 years. The last thing they just checked for was every page of my passport. I kept a spreadsheet because I needed to go back for my mothers 2 surgeries. Also, that was helpful for tax purposes.
The 8 months in 2 years is for the temporary residence permit which is well known. However, I’m talking more about permanent residence.
The rules can vary greatly depending on your country of origin and family status. If you have permanent reaidency already you should be able to read the Portuguese law directly. As all things Portuguese there are exceptions and if you would exceed the normal limits you would need to communicate with AIMA directly.
If you line it up exactly it might work. Eg if you are in Portugal June and July every year (with some buffer days)
But if one year you only arrive in Portugal in August, you may have created a 3 year window with more than 30 months absence. You would have to calculate carefully if you are cutting it very close.
Yes, that’s correct. Just keep in mind what @anonymous69 flagged, since this three-year period is not linked to a card validity period. IIRC it’s within any 3-year period (rolling basis).
Either a spreadsheet or dedicated apps can help make sure you stay on the right side of the limit if you’re really cutting it that close.
Do you have a source for this requirement for the non-GV PR? It was hard to find when I was looking up a non-GV temporary stay requirements.