THIS IS AN URGENT MESSSAGE REQUIRING YOUR ATTENTION AND ACTION!
Everyone who has applied or is thinking about applying for the ARI/Golden Visa program of Portugal, We urgently need your help now more than ever, because we have found out from the Attorney who drafted the petition that it needs to reach 7,500 signatures by Thursday. Here is text about it and text you can use to send to anyone connected. We all need to pull together to protect everyoneâs rights to the ARI program even those who may still be applyingâŠwhich is actually legal to do.
The rights of immigrants to Portugal are being threatened. At this point proposed laws seek to revoke the rights of ARI (residence by investment ) applicants , but any category of immigrants could be next. Please sign this petition sponsored by PAIIR asap . If the group of Portuguese industry and legal leaders obtain 7,500 signature the group will secure the right to participate in parliamentary discussions about the bill and represent itâs members and us.
Iâd agree, this sounds about like the sort of back channel dodge that would be done by someone trying to âsweep it all under the rug and make it go awayâ.
Also, if you have family members under family reunification they can sign the petition also!
bradley.yvr
(Bradley Jordan and Surathai Junngam)
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Iâve tried multiple times to sign the petition, both on my Ipad and laptop, but either the link doesnât work, or everything is in Portuguese, and I donât see the petition. I want to help and sign the petition for my husband and I, but I donât understand how to do this. I appreciate youâre efforts, but if people donât know how to sign the petition, we may not get enough signatures.
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bradley.yvr
(Bradley Jordan and Surathai Junngam)
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My husband and I invested into two real estate funds for our Golden Visas back in December 2021. The funds are invested into almost every sector of the real estate market, and the funds are tied up to 2029 and 2030. How are these likely changes going to impact those who have purchased real estate funds? My husband and I were planning to move to Portugal once we got our resident cards, and my husband was planning to work, so the residency requirements wonât impact us. But Iâm concerned that if we canât live in Portugal, eventually getting our citizenship, and if our money is tied up until 2029 and 2030, we wonât have the funds to look into any other options elsewhere. We donât feel safe living in the US, and we need a second citizenship. Thanks for your suggestions, weâre really scared.
Look for the bright green button saying âAssinar Petiçãoâ. Click on this and it will take you to a page asking for your Name, your Email and your N° B.I/CartĂŁo CidadĂŁo. For the last field I used my South African ID number as my Passport number and my Portuguese residency number have letters, and the field only seems to accept numbers.
Important - if you have signed the petition, be sure to check your inbox for a confirmation email. You need to confirm your signature by clicking on the link below the phrase âAo confirmar a sua assinatura na petição garante a autenticidade dos dadosâ
An interesting comment from the noisy WhatsApp group:
âThe Government has tried and failed to apply a GV law retroactively before. When it introduced the basic language requirement, it wanted applications already submitted to also comply. It didnât succeed in doing so, as it would have been a retroactive effect.â
Mark. This is good to know. I was going to dig into any rulings by the Constitutional Court in the past that can be used as an example of similar types of rulings for the press. Right now, I am more focused on the 7,500 number.
Thank you for the idea. I am not a Facebooker any longer. I got hacked a few years back thanks to a family friend who had the settings wide open. Thank god for Lifelock!
Anway, can you copy the text I posted and paste it to posts on Facebook. We need all the help we can get, as others of us are hitting the lawyers and advisory firms and trying to be tech support for others.
To help those out who need to turn on translation in their browser. Here is the first of a couple of threads as your local tech support person. If you are using Microsoft Edge as your browser, to have pages translated automatically the three ⊠on the far right and click on that. Then select settings from the menu. In Settings, select Languages. The make sure you have, " Offer to translate pages that arenât in a language I read" is turned on/active.
Coming UpâŠGoogle Chrome.
IMPORTANT TECHNICAL ADVICE ON TURNING ON TRANSLATION IN YOUR BROWSER ABOVE AND BELOW.
For those using Chrome:
The process is similar. Go to the far right of the Chrome Screen and select the three dots (.) that are vertical. Then from the drop down menu select Settings.
In Settings you should select Language
In Language you should turn on Google Translate.
You may need to restart your browser.
For those not familiar, Google Translate is also an app you can download and use to translate on your phone and PC.
For Apple users I have heard you can get Google Translate to work, but I just highlight the text I want to have translated and select translate from the pop-up menu Apple provides and then read the translation.
Those were your helpful technical tips for the day.
Jeff, we can debate the merits and reasoning behind why we are including citizenship (of course meeting all the criteria except the stay requirement) as part of the ARI scheme and therefore a right that needs to be protected - on another day. Today, we all must get signatures to ensure there is a seat at the table who we can feed to influence this debate positively before we each have to file law suits. Yes, there is no class action status in Portugal. Every ARI investor who wants to protect their rights or save their investments will need to file an Administrative Legal Claim because your complaint has to do with an Administrative Law change. Eventually after 2 to 3 courts you will get to the Constitutional Court and get your ruling, which does necessarily apply to anyone else because just you filed the claim. Welcome to a statutory legal system, not a case law based legal system and one that does not have torts like the US does.
I was able to sign the petition with the âNo. Ident. Fiscalâ number on the back side of my Titulo de Residencia card. It is all numeric, no letters.
I have signed the petition and sent it to my real estate agency etc. Does anyone have any idea how long the current issue may take to resolve? What I mean is, what is the timeline for it to become law after itâs been debated, then how long would a constitutional challenge take etc.
The new draft law is expected to emerge next week, and be sent to Parliament. (We actually think the programme will be broken up into different pieces of legislation to be considered separately.) The piece containing the GV proposals may go through the parliamentary process in 3 weeks or so, then itâs sent to the President. The President can decide to refer it to to the Constitutional Court, within 8 days. (Personally, I think thatâs quite likely, based on the views of several constitutional scholars.)
The Court has I think 25 days to consider it. If they rule any part unconstitutional, it goes back to Parliament to be amended (or passed again with a super-majority). So this could all be done in a month, or more likely, drag on for rather longer.