Ha so if I don’t give up on the whole endeavour because of the new Nationality Law, I could actually do this from abroad without getting my mom involved or mailing some random person my ID. Thanks for the tip!
I’m sorry that certain foreigners still have to go to the police station / send someone with the physical passport. Hopefully enough people complain for the police to streamline the process some day. I’m convinced they streamlined it for ID holders because they hated having random civilians line up at the police stations for paperwork, which makes them look bad.
I understood from my friend experience, for Chinese ID holders you just need to go to the city where you have current residency registration, all criminal recodes are consolidated and a single certificate can be generated.
Experiences probably vary depending on the location. The bureaucrats too need a minimal level of competency to “make it” in the better cities. I would be surprised if they don’t measure throughput and average waiting times in various government offices in Beijing, but I have no desire to defend Chinese bureaucrats as a whole.
The certificates are always from the local police (e.g.Beijing Police, district xyz). Obviously, if I had committed crimes in Shanghai, the Beijing police would know. The problem is I have not committed crimes anywhere, but the certificate from Beijing doesn’t explicitly say their database includes all of China. I have no opinion whether someone should get one from Beijing and a separate one from Shanghai in this example, since it doesn’t apply to me and I never asked my lawyer.
I would agree that gov services have improved tremendously in past 10 yrs. But at least in another better city Shanghai, bureaucracy had been enjoying to see citizens lining up and telling them that they missed one blank paper so that they need to come back next time.
Automation = They don’t want to be bothered. They want me to generate a PDF at home and leave them alone, rather than lining up to make their stats look bad.
I’m not saying they wouldn’t torture me if given the opportunity