If these regulations are taken literally this would mean the stay requirements are completely out of sync with the card validities. E.g. you could show up to renew your 2 year card having stayed only 7 days and say you’ll stay 14 days in the 3rd year per the regulations!
Has anyone actually been denied renewal for spending 14 days during their first card’s 2 year validity but NOT 7 days during the 1st year of that?
Our lawyer has indicated we should not have an issue, despite the fact we will not have been in Portugal for 7 days during our first year.
October 2020 - Application submitted
March 2021 - Preapproval
March 2022 - Biometrics (Faro)
May 2022 - Final Approval / Titulo de Residencia issued (2 year validity)
We had previously been advised that the stay requirement was 14 days anytime within the first two years. Our lawyer continues to advise that because we were fully approved almost a year ago, we will be OK with a minimum of 14 days anytime within our first two years.
Our one year is up during the first week of May. On such short notice we can’t make it in time. We will rely on our lawyers at Prime Legal and trust that they know what they are talking about.
edit: Believe me, it there was time, we’d be there before the one year elapses. And it is not an ‘extra week’ situation. We still plan to be in country 14 days (at a minimum) within the first two years.
My lawyers said it is “advisable” to spend the 7 days in the first year, but also that they have seen clients getting renewals approved without that, e.g. with 14 days in the 2nd year.
What’s possibly going on is that while the regulations (which have not been updated after the initial permit was changed from 1 year to 2 years) are clear that 7 days in the first year is required, SEF is being lenient on the understanding that those regulations are outdated?
Our timeline is similar. I floated the idea of a last minute one-week trip to my spouse but the idea is too stressful for them so we will just be doing 14 days during the 2 years instead.
I think my spouse would be willing to deal with it if we knew it was 100% necessary but I told them what the lawyers said and they said I’m just paranoid, thinking that even though nobody else has been denied over this, I would be the first
Hopefully SEF (or their replacement) is lenient but if not while the GV would certainly be a nice-to-have, it’s not worth the cost of excessive marital stress
You ever tried planning a trip last minute with kids? our lawyer did previously advise that 14 days anytime in the 1st 2 years are fine. If they’d said it has to be 7 in the first year, we would have had plenty of time to plan a real family vacation to PT in the first year.
The other difficult part is we never added my spouse to the GV because their home country doesn’t allow dual citizenship, so they’re not interested in a PT passport for themselves. So rushing over now would mean a very short “vacation” for me (and maybe one kid) to fulfill my residence requirement, while my spouse is stuck at home with the other kid, during a time of year where work pressures at their job are high. Stressful indeed!