Language required for citizenship - GV

[Lourenco (Lourenço)]

@Scott_Jones

I learned the following directly from EDPRO:

There are little tests/15 minute exercises/homework that you must do to show your knowledge and involvement with the material throughout the course. These tests can be done overnight on the EdTech platform they use and don’t seem to be “live”. These tests are up to the teacher of the individual course you are in. And you must attend 90% of the classes and you must participate in class to pass (like @Kingo spoke about). I’m curious about the meaning of the words “homework” vs. “tests” and would love to hear from someone that has done these classes themselves.

Also, I was told you only need the resident permit and NIF. I didn’t know what a NISS was and was told it wasn’t required.

NISS is the number you get when you register with the Social Security Department (not equivalent to US social security), which as a resident you need to do. The only reason I can imagine needing to give it out is if you’re financially distressed and applying for a government subsidy or handout. And Edpro does ask for this number, whether or not, as you say, it isn’t required. Confusing, since they are not a welfare organization.

I’ve also received similar information from them, as you quoted above. But it would be nice to hear from someone other than Edpro itself about the acceptability of their certificates.

[alirezamgt (alireza)]

Test is very easy
They will send you one day before you have time to do it. Hone work the books ( learning materials) has to be done via learning with teacher . Its very nice and easy . Btw i passed CIPLE A2 also . Just understood one week my class started . I did exam on nov 2023 .

[Kingo (Sam)]

To enroll in PLA NISS is not mandatory
I didn t delivered it

NIF yes

[Mary3 (Mary)]

Thank yo so much for sharing your experience! I have registered for the February sessions.

Do we need to be physically in Portugal? Also, overall, how many hours a day do you spend with the course? Is it a full 4-hour session + homework/study? It seems really intense and exhausting! I’m worried whether I will have enough time for my work and other stuff.

By the way, congratulations on passing CIPLE!! So exciting!!

[rogergan68 (Roger G)]

@Lourenco

I recently passed the CIPLE exam, and by the way, it’s not true that you can fail the listening exam and still pass; you must score 55% or above in each of the four sections.

You no need to score 55% or above in each of the four sections. Below is snapshot of my friend exam result Nov 2023.

Edit: the result is Suficiente = Pass

[Garbonzo (Paul Pierce)]

@rogergan68

You no need to score 55% or above in each of the four sections.

This was my understanding also. This is why people who took it said that it wasn’t extremely difficult. According to them, you can get a 100% in one area and a 10% in another area and still pass.

[rogergan68 (Roger G)]

@Lourenco

The easier part was to associate 15 short sentences to different situations or professions. That alone is worth around 40%, so I didn’t need to get a lot correct in the other questions.

I took the exam in Nov 2023 and passed with Classificação Bom. It appears the listening exam became more difficult starting from Nov 2023: the “easier” part becomes: to choose the correct REPLY from a list of 10 to each of the situational questions. It was a nightmare for me as I only prepared to identify location/profession of the situations, per past exams.

[Korion (Carson)]

Maybe its a translation issue? Could it be you need a 55% average to pass?

[Calpoidog (Christopher)]

My understanding was also that OVERALL you needed a 55% to pass and don’t need to have that on each section.

[gwytb (Mark Rogan)]

A TPN article features a potentially noteworthy quote from an AIMA official about language learning:

In terms of integration, “we also want, during this quarter, to launch a new strategy for promoting Portuguese language learning”, added the president of AIMA

I wonder whether this mean they will improve access to PLA courses. For all of the messages in this thread, I’m no closer to understanding how to secure enrollment in a PLA class without paying a fixer. There aren’t many course listings online, and the few that are listed seem to be nothing more than the computer’s hallucinations.

[ohbee (Full Name)]

At the beginning of every online intensive class, are they spending half an hour checking everyones identification? That sounds FUN!

[alirezamgt (alireza)]

No not all . Only first session in the course as introduction . The day after is all learning .

[rogergan68 (Roger G)]

Met my lawyer today and we touched on language requirement for NATIONALITY. She insisted that the applicant must present A2 certificate issued by CAPLE.

[TommyReine (Tomás)]

Then you very well know to stay away from this Lawyer, when you do apply for the Nationality .

[Kingo (Sam)]

Skip this lawyer then
Really skip it!

[ohbee (Full Name)]

You can trust all of us real lawyers on the forum.

[minimaxr (MM)]

I would strongly recommend that people who have no exposure to Romance languages like Spanish, and not used to hearing Portuguese regularly - warm up for a month with Memrise (European Portuguese 1 and 2) or other online course before joining a live class. The usual style is for the teacher to be speaking Portuguese most of the time, and some preparation will be a big help in the first few classes.

[garrett]

I’d strongly recommend pimsleur. Great style, unfortunately limited content but I get a lot of compliments on my pronunciation which I credit to it

[rogergan68 (Roger G)]

This is exactly my experience.

[piquant_bugs.07 (Adam S)]

I thought Pimsleur was great, but because there isn’t a Portuguese 3 program, I wasn’t sure where to go next. I really liked the The Journey/Portuguese with Carla, but it felt like it got pretty advanced rather quickly. Has anyone found a more natural next step up from Pimsleur?