Language required for citizenship - GV

I went straight into classes in Portugal, which was great, but not practical for a lot of people

I see a lot of discussion about the CIPLE Exam and the EdPro classes. One of earlier links in the thread was this one, https://pptonline.acm.gov.pt/
This looks like a Govt website.

The question that was posed which I didn’t see an answer to was whether you get a certificate for completing this course? Or is this just a Free preparatory course for you to take the CIPLE exam

Has anyone used this ? I looks like you have to register

At the bottom it says
“Now you can do it through this platform, independently, free of charge and at your own pace.”

The ppt online course was buggy and extremely frustrating. Unless something has miraculously changed since last year, you’ll eventually run into an unanswerable open-ended question based on an undecipherable, low-quality audio clip, and you will be unable to proceed to the next lesson. You might ask for help from the ostensibly assigned mentor but there is no mentor because the project is seemingly unstaffed and unmaintained.

Beyond just the implementation problems, the curriculum design and content aren’t good. And it does not yield any useful course credit, e.g. for citizenship. It’s a waste of time IMO.

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Thanks. Appreciate the response

We have confirmation from @Kingo that he got citizenship with the language proficiency proof being a PLA certificate obtained via the Edpro platform.

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Yes my wife and I applied with PLA
Please do understand that EDPRO is an aggregator
PLA is monitored by the qualifica centers
Espro have the mission to link you with the official bodies and manage admin works.
I got mine with AEP Porto and it is mandated by qualifica centers
No one cams no hassle, you have to follow the policy ( 90% attendance and participation)
That s it

Ciple is an industry led by instructors selling courses and speeding doubts …

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Yes better to check with your lawyer
And defy him

I don’t see where Kingo said he got citizenship using the PLA certificate from EdPro. In fact, later he said he got his certificate through AEP. He wouldn’t have been able to get citizenship with a certificate from Edpro, simply because the Edpro program hasn’t been around that long, and any application for nationality would have started at the very least 18 months ago, but likely much much longer. I have yet to see any valid proof that the Edpro certificate works and am still very skeptical about Edpro, so I advised my wife not to risk it. I got my language certificate by taking the exam.

All edpro A2 is certified by AEP and you can see all ur data on passporte qualifica .

And totally is acceptable for citizenship .

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Lourenco
EDPRO is a an aggregator. It arranges the courses Abad manage the schedules and classes. The courses you get is with the official bodies
Mine was with AEP

Hello there, i see most onine classes start at 9am. Is there any school offering something earlier so cater for students in Asia timezone?

Hey kevin

No way im living in malaysia this is the only time frame for PLA authorized entity in portugal . :disappointed:

hi dear, how’s your EDPRO learning going? Did you get your certificate in the end? I am thinking about taking their course in June but a bit hesitated as it seems a very intensive course and not sure if actually can get a certificate in the end after successfully completing the course

I also completed an EDPRO course through their parter AEP. It seems you are randomly assigned a parter and a professor, so everyone’s experience may vary. I would say the first half of the class if not bad pacing wise, but the second half (A2) portion introduces a lot fairly quickly with several verb tenses to know and a bunch of alternative pronouns.

That being said, I think the class is very doable for everyone. The professor was very accommodating and wanted to see effort and participation and not necessarily “correctness” on first attempts. She then saw where you were weak and gave supplemental material in that area to get you up to the standard.

I got my certificate and EDPRO sent it to my lawyer who said all looked good with it.

Disclaimer: I took Spanish way back in high school, and University. I was terrible at it, barely passing, but it gave me a basis for verb conjugation and sentence structure. If you are nervous and have no background in romance languages I would start the class knowing how and why to conjugate the verbs Ser/Estar/Ir/Ter/Poder in Present and Past Perfect, conjugation of regular ar/er/ir verbs in Present and Past Perfect, plus use Drops App or similar to get some random vocabulary. That will go a long way in understanding the language and really account for the most used verbs in the course. Just make sure you are watching and using European Portuguese videos and not Brazilian!

Also this website is great for looking up verbs.

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Did you do the whole 150 hours in one hit ? How was your stamina in coping with that ? I should image one would progressively decline in retention and motivation as it went along ?

Yep, it was 150 hours, averaging 4 days a week at 4 hours a day. By about the last three weeks the combination of building more content onto of previous content plus the continued grind starts to wear you down. But by that time you see the light at the end of the tunnel. There was one week we only had two classes and another couple weeks we had three just because of holidays. I found myself wishing they had been the full weeks since progress seemed so slow towards the needed hours.

On my desk I had a printout of the verbs I mentioned above plus the schedule they sent out at the beginning. It was therapeutic scratching through each day as we went on and lets you see how far you have come.

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I’ve just recently completed an half A1 course. It was an “immersion” type i.e. the teacher rarely speaks English and rabbits on about conjugations & etc for up to several minutes in Portuguese. This I found counterproductive to building a learning base & very frustrating as the shortish course (2 times a week for 2 hours) wore on. Did you have this “immersion” style process from your “professor” ?

I’ll throw my advice in again - do Pimsleur, or something like it, in order to practice listening and speaking - it really helps a lot. I get a lot of compliments on my pronunciation even though I know I’m not perfect

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@Prinz-Eugen Was yours online or in person? Mine was online so I think “immersion” was less achievable. There was more English than I expected, especially at the beginning. By the end it was trending more towards immersion.

I would say I can read the language pretty well, but my speaking and listening are still rough. It is just such a difficult accent to pick up.

Ah, I see. Mine was in-person. I agree with you, reading is ok but listening is very difficult as European Portuguese seems not greatly enunciated… I will probably try the 150 hours next year and be done with the whole thing in “one (long) hit” & in-person…