NIF, NISS and Utente Number in one go

[madalenamonteiro]

NIF, NISS and Utente Number in one go

Yesterday, the Portuguese government announced a set of measures to promote the standardisation, simplification, and digitalisation of public services.

One of these is allocating identification numbers for foreign citizens in one go.

With this measure, foreigners will be able to obtain the following data in one go:

1. Tax Identification Number;
2. Utente Number and
3. Social Security Identification Number

You can see the measures announced yesterday here:
document.pdf (463.8 KB)

[mborcherding (Maxine Borcherding)]

Question regarding the Numero de Udente.
I am waiting for my final GV approval. My numero de udente is temporary and allowed me to receive covid vaccines but no other regular SNS services until I receive my first residence card.

Is the Numero de Udente referenced here the same temporary number that I currently have, or is it a permanent one allowing access to all SNS services?

[tommigun (Tommy Gunn)]

Maxine, if you applied for GV before 2022 you should have access to all SNS services under Despacho n.º 12870-C/2021

[tkrunning (Thomas K. Running)]

I translated the document to English using DeepL:

Mais Simplificação, Menos Burocracia (EN).pdf (363.0 KB)

You’ll find the relevant part on page 11 (“Identity Numbers for Foreign Citizens at a Glance”).

Supposedly, the implementation deadline is the 4th quarter of 2024.

[garrett]

Anyone hear anything else on this? Now that I’ve got my card, looking to get my mobile key, NISS, and numero de utente squared away in case I need them

[tkrunning (Thomas K. Running)]

Same here!

NIF I’ve already got obviously, but the two others seem to have gotten trickier to get over the past year or so.

Apparently you now need the NISS to get the SNS number, but you only get the NISS by showing a work contract, self-employment activity, or similar (which I don’t have).

[garrett]

Same, confused how I can get these then, for either myself or my wife

Maybe I can put down the equivalent of retired or homemaker?

[PTbound (A L)]

@tkrunning

…but you only get the NISS by showing a work contract, self-employment activity, or similar

Is it still this endless loop?

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Related article today in DN about how (quelle surprise!) they didn’t think this rule change through for Digital Nomads, so yet another Portugal SNAFU ensues… …“They say you need a Social Security Identification Number (NISS) to apply for a Residence Permit, but to obtain a NISS, you need to have applied for a Residence Permit. It’s an endless loop.” …The impediment arose after changes that Social Security (SS) made to the registration system after the end of the Expressions of Interest. Unti…

[tommigun (Tommy Gunn)]

Gents, I have not done this myself, but a self-employment registration seems like a fairly easy process:

Inicio_atividade.pdf

(Followed by equally simple de-registration in case someone later finds it hard work to be self-employed )

[tkrunning (Thomas K. Running)]

That’s of course an alternative, however in the case of self-employment they also require two invoices to see that you have clients paying you already. Still doable, but I’d rather see if I the new system gets launched soon (a proxima semana, I’m sure) and makes the process easier and more accessible.

Or maybe I manage to register in person somehow by pleading my case. Dealing with bureaucracy in Portugal is very YMMV as we all know.