Hey TW. I’m a US citizen wanting to use a VM while I travel abroad for 6-12 months. The Anytime address for 1225 Cypress St Los Angeles CA 90065 showed this message when I added the Ste # - postal-match,unknown-secondary,ignored-input. Any idea what it means or what impact it would have (if any)?
Thanks for all your hard work and time I really appreciate it!
I just wanted to give you an update. My Anytime mailbox (res, non-CMRA last year 2024) has recently been flagged as a CMRA. More concerning is I received a “Closure Notification” from Anytime Mailbox today saying that “their operating partner has decided to no longer offer Anytime Mailbox services effective April 1st 2025” so I am required now to find a new address, change address and go through all of the verification processes, change bank address, etc.
Has anyone else run into this problem yet? I’m just wondering if I should stick with anytime mailbox or what’s everyone doing?
ps: also just got request from WISE to ‘verify account’
I just thought I would go on the direct website of my anytime mailbox provider to clarify that it really wasn’t spam and this is what their website reads as of today:
https://www.11thhour.company/freethinkerprojects.html
This means mail can’t be collected, scanned or forwarded until you set up a new, forwarding verified mailbox & have it processed by the new company! They’ve stopped working as an Anytime Mailbox operator with ZERO prior notice!
I think this will likely happen again soon unless you can find an operator other than Anytime or iPostal. To continue from my previous comments, we are in the process of opening a second coworking location. I thought it might be beneficial for a group like this to have a non-CMRA address, so I reached out to Anytime to see if they allow that. Unfortunately, not only can you not sign up a new address without being CMRA compliant, but they are also actively converting or shutting down existing operators. I’m not sure what the solution here is, but maybe we could focus on banks that allow CMRA addresses? I think Schwab may be one of them, can anyone confirm? What are the others?
thanks this is interesting. Is there a way to check which addresses have been flagged as non-CMRA and Residential for the longest period of time? thanks!
yes: (check both)
BUT… But they seem to be getting flagged more and more as a mine was listed as Residential & non-CMRA still in Dec '24. It recently got flagged and basically got shut down with zero notice. So yeah, it’s a challenge.
thanks frequencyfit
Thanks. I have enquired with Anytime Mailbox and they “assured” me that the operator gives a minimum of 30 days prior to closing… But I guess getting flagged as CMRA can take place anytime.
not true. I have been (and am) with the Anytime Mailbox. Yesterday, I received the email that the office was closed immediately. So they didn’t even give 24 hours notice (there was ZERO notice). However, Anytime Mailbox says they will cover the additional notary fees if I switch to another Anytime Mailbox service. I’m currently researching which one isn’t CMRA etc. In the meantime, there is no way to collect my mail in person or scan it or collect it in any way until I have a new mailbox setup and the new service scans it for me(!)
I’m not 100% sure when it got flagged as a CMRA. it could have been January or a couple weeks ago…(?) I don’t know if it’s two completely separate issues or maybe their closure was related to their new status. But for the closure… ZERO notice.
Greetings to All,
I’m new…hope I’m doing the right thing in the right place.
I’m searching for the ultimate virtual mailbox [as if it were at my real front door] and am thankful for Thomas Running’s article: “Ultimate Guide to Virtual Mailboxes for US Banking Purposes.”
I searched the database for a non-CMRA address designated as Residential in Texas and found only one. The first attached screenshot shows the address and its desired designations. However, as shown in the second attached screenshot, the building clearly is occupied solely by commercial operations. Being a former real estate developer with a little experience in zoning, I find it exceedingly difficult to believe the land is zoned residential or retains any residential designation whatsoever.
I need a virtual address acceptable to a number of large, sophisticated financial institutions and can’t afford a mistake.
All replies and advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, JDL
That is unfortunately quite common, it’s hard to tell why USPS classifies it as Residential. In general it’s not that easy to find virtual mailbox addresses that really look like a personal residence. They do exist, but are few and far between, and seemingly not available in every state.
In this particular instance it seems USPS has already corrected their mistake—not only in respect to the residential delivery indicator (RDI), but also flagging it as a CMRA:
This is why I stress that before signing up for an address in the database you should double check that its classification hasn’t changed by looking it up using Smarty.
In general there has been a sharp increase in addresses being flagged as CMRA over the past few months, so it seems to be quite gamble to pick an address that will remain not flagged as a CMRA over time.
If you mean banks like Chase, BofA etc, I doubt they will ever use USPS’ RDI to determine if your address is legit or not. Nor are they likely to ever look up the address on Google Maps. Their automated checks revolve around the CMRA indicator.
But, if you cannot afford the address ever getting flagged or otherwise being identified as a CMRA you should probably look into another solution, like renting an apartment or a room somewhere, or using the address of a trusted friend or family member.
Or you can use something like VPM’s TruResidence service (which starts at $600/mo for a Nevada address). However, that still isn’t available for Texas.
I just ran this test again about 6 weeks later, using similar cohorts.
These are the results:
In this test there seems to be a clear trend that the longer we’ve tracked the address, the less likely it has been to be flagged as a CMRA in the last 6 weeks. This makes more intuitive sense as it may take a few weeks or months for a newly established CMRA to be flagged as such in the USPS data.
So, in general, I’d recommend picking an address that we’ve tracked for longer.
This is just a hip-shot response before I dig into the numbers…I can’t thank you enough for your analysis.
Not sure what a cohort is {yet} or if I can sort by tracking period. You said in your article it would be a laborious process and, based on my preliminary internet research, I didn’t expect that. The CMRA & RDI indicators are essential criteria I’ve not seen mentioned elsewhere.
If I remember correctly, I only saw one non-CMRA address in the entire state of Texas. I hope I missed something.
THANKS
Nothing is forever, I always say…
All of the people here looking for a non-CMRA Virtual mailbox:
- Though there may be a non-CMRA marked location, that doesn’t mean that it is a non-CMRA location.
- Eventually, the database will be updated.
- In order to qualify to have your mail sent to such an address, the CMRA need to file forms, which mark them as a CMRA. You need to file forms to have your mail forwarded to such an address, which needs to be a CMRA already.
- The USPS forms you fill out give the CMRA legal rights about your mail, and the ones they fill out assure YOU that they are trustworthy.
- If a place wouldn’t require such a form, that would be quite concerning to me.
- USPS has been modernizing operations, which means they will catch up. They will catch up quicker and quicker because of this mondernization.
In short, this is a game of whack a mole. Anyone trying to game the system will very likely only be undiscovered for a short amount of time.
This is exactly right, Eric.
The best is if you have close friends or family you can “borrow” an address from.
But for everyone else, these addresses provide a solution to a very real problem, even if just temporarily.
And yes, all of these providers are actually CMRAs. The question is just whether the address is flagged as such with USPS already.
Any thoughts on https://www.sbimailservice.com/ ? This was well recommended on Reddit but no mention of it in this guide, which made me raise an eyebrow.
I ran the address they list on their website through Smarty and it comes back as a CMRA, meaning banks will flag it.
This is the address I ran:
411 Walnut Street
Green Cove Springs, FL 32043-3443
Not sure if they have any other tricks up their sleeve since people recommend them?