I think that would only be true if the child had held an independent residence permit for the entire period, which I honestly doubt applies to most children on a GV as they’re almost always dependents rather than autonomous residents
The child has a residence permit that’s every bit as valid as their parent’s. The only proviso is that at each ARI renewal, they must show dependence. For citizenship, the law doesn’t care how they got their residence permit. So if the child qualifies by the number of years of residence (currently including the time from application), and they’re an adult when they apply, they are eligible. They don’t have to wait for their parents to become citizens. If they had to wait for that, there’d be no point anyone ever including a child on the ARI.
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Thank you for taking the time to explain this clearly، I appreciate you sharing your perspective. I might be in a similar situation myself, so I’d want to double-check this with my lawyer.
If there are any lawyers here who can confirm this in practice, that would be much appreciated.
I am not a lawyer, but I can confirm that as the main applicant, I applied for citizenship last year after five years of residency (currently including time from application); at the same time my 18-year-old daughter who also had five years of residency was able to independently apply for citizenship. However, my 17-year-old cannot apply for citizenship (as per my lawyer: For applicants under 18 years old: Citizenship can only be requested after one of the parents becomes a Portuguese citizen or once the applicant turns 18.)
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Have you applied for PR for your 17 year old? What is your plan for them once you get your citizenship? With the upcoming law change there is a risk your 17 year old will have to complete 10 years residency before applying as an adult. I’m assuming they’ll be 18 by the time you get your citizenship so they can’t apply as a minor either.
No I can’t apply for her PR as she hasn’t done her A2 yet (school doesn’t leave much time for that) - so it’s a problem!
Some positive support for the ARI investor position. This link goes to a PT podcast (A Cor do Dinheiro) and was supported by one of the partners at Blue Crow. He and another fund manager from Optimize weighed in on the benefits accruing from ARI funds flow to Portugal and the issues that this community has encountered. As has been noted, there has been lots of support and activity in the background from some of the larger community, even if its not visible. This discussion was originally slated for March/April but Antonio pulled the recording up into December after our request for help. The discussion is in Portuguese, but for those without the language skills yet, the autotranslate subtitles does a pretty good job. I appreciate these guys stepping up.
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I wonder if you could file early for citizenship- although it could possibly be rejected before your deadline - (maybe immediately refile if that happens), there is a maybe a chance? no one will look at it until after you qualify by old law- and then you might have a case to push it thru- they are going to be busy with all those biometrics this spring adn summer 
There’s a thread on that here: https://community.nomadgate.com/t/early-applications-for-citizenship/75366
Thank you.
Travel and Tour World sometimes publishes fantastically wrong articles (I think most of their humans have been replaced by bots). But this article is reasonably correct, and a good summary of the tightening of residence/citizenship rules across Europe.
Double-checking the article:
- Portugal: TTW have the doubling from 5 to 10 years for non-CPLP as a “done deal,” but everybody on this forum knows the legislation isn’t final… yet
- France: new 40-question civic exam needing 80% to pass starting 1-Jan '26 is true, see: Residence permit -A new civic examination for foreigners wishing to settle in France | Service Public
- Germany: abolition of fast-track naturalisation after 3y is true, and “Naturalisation is now more explicitly tied to proven linguistic, cultural, economic and social commitment to Germany,” see: Changes to citizenship requirements and research on migrant students and refugee integration in Germany - Migration and Home Affairs
- Finland: PR now needs 6 years continuous residence (was 4) starting this month, with some exceptions (mainly if you’re already done your 4y)… plus higher language requirements. See: Finland – Permanent Residence Permit Conditions Amended
- Netherlands: PR and citizenship require both a civic integration examination (language + Knowledge of Dutch Society) and demonstrated integration into Dutch society. See: Civic integration for more secure residence permit and naturalisation | IND
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I suspected this would happen which is why I applied for GV 5 years ago. I didn’t anticipate it would retroactively affect people like us who already had visas. 
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Additional support from the Blue Crow team regarding their video (posted above)
…just received a reply from the Partner after I sent a thank you note:
“Thank you for your feedback. I have sent it (the video) to my friends in Parliament to try and explain the position.
Warm regards,
Antonio
Partner’s name / Blue Crow”
If anyone has an Optimize relationship with Pedro, can you encourage them to do the same? (Having pondered for a few minutes, likely already been done…but would be nice to have confirmation).
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I emailed him to ask what they were doing to protect investors. The response wasn’t horrible, but it left a lot to be desired. Essentially, they said they did not have connections, but they did sponsor that one opinion about the constitutionality of the law.
I really do not think some of funds appreciate the liability under US securities laws that they face.
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Just posting this here
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Thank you for posting. I encourage everyone who has invested in a GV to invest a little more to give ourselves the best chance as possible to receive our citizenship in a reasonable timeframe.
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Anyone have thoughts about the impact of today’s presidential election? Assuming Seguro and Ventura are in the runoff and Seguro then wins it (which seems likely), what if anything does that portend for the likelihood of keeping the timeline to citizenship eligibility at 5 years?
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I don’t think that it hints at anything in particular about that one piece of legislation, but Seguro winning the runoff (and Ventura not coming first today, which had been expected) are the best outcomes we could have realistically hoped for.
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Nope, I say that if you read all reasons why TC prohibited this paragrapg the conclusion is a bit different. TC prohibited this new clause because parliament decided to “clarify” the law for the applications which are already submitted. Their reason is that if current law says nothing about the time it should continue to be so for old applications. To have 5 yrs BEFORE applying was the status quo under current law and it will continue to be so for the applications under current law.
Do we know the status of any new / revised Nationality law? Would parliament wait for 9 March - when the new President is due to be sworn in? or would attempt to pass the law sooner?