Portugal GV Fund Comparison?

Interesting! Iā€™m also less keen on real estate-focused funds. IMGA AƧƵes Portugal isnā€™t on Nomad Gateā€™s list of GV-eligible funds. May I ask how you checked or confirmed that it qualifies for the GV ?

Bison Bank and the fund manager confirmed that it meets the requirements. Each bank seems to have their preferred funds that they sponsor/market. There are a couple out there that focus on innovation and traditional Portuguese companies that arenā€™t real estate based.

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interesting. that one is even listed on the market and has a long track record - FT tracks it - and returns arenā€™t terrible if perhaps not stellar either.
https://markets.ft.com/data/funds/tearsheet/performance?s=PTAFIALM0006:EUR

Yes, it is listed in Bloomberg, FT and a few others. Our goal was not to lose money on any investment since we are doing it mainly for the GV residency. But this one seems stable and is listed on the Portuguese Stock Exchange.

Many thanks for the info, opens up another possibility I hadnā€™t come across in months of research (and lurking on these extremely educational forums). Our goalā€™s capital preservation too with eventual residency and ultimately citizenship the main motivation. So you opened an account with Bison and their investment folks marketed this fund among others to you? Funny I didnā€™t even think of approaching the banks for fund options :roll_eyes:

We are the same, ultimately citizenship is our main goal for the entire family. Bison Bank was introduced to us as one of the banks that accept US citizens due to the reporting requirements. Bison Bank had a list of all the funds eligible for the GV, we only had a few of them sent to us. Here is a partial list:

I also have the presentations for all of these.

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Yeah, there are a surprising number of other funds out there that havenā€™t gotten named here yet-

  • inception 1 by magnify partners (life sciences) - but it just closed
  • explorer IV by explorer investments (typical VC, broad based)
  • shilling founders fund (tech VC/incubator, rather like Portugal Gateway)
  • villanova (senior housing)
  • IMGA mondego (real estate)
  • the others Joe mentioned

Geez. a whole wealth of options. Good in a way, frustrating in another. More research! And still just a crapshoot in the end.

Bison sounds like easiest bank to open an account with remotely too.

What interests me about IMGA AƧƓes Portugal is itā€™s open-ended & traded on the stock exchange - presumably youā€™d have more control over your exit strategy after the GV-requisite 5-6 years if you can sell the units on the open market at a time of your choosing? Rather than wait out the full 6++ or 8 or 10-year term or stress over the voting at the general assembly of the closed-end funds.

If you have the IMGA AƧƓes Portugal presentation handy to share, Iā€™d be grateful; if not no worries, Iā€™ll contact IMGA or Bison - I should be doing my own legwork anyway!

I am intrigued by this option also. Open ended, diversified, liquid, and low fees.

The IMGA fund information page is here.

Prospectus can be found here: English Version or Portuguese Version

This fund is also appears to be available through Millennium. I have read that opening an account with Millennium as an American is hit-and-miss, but it is a full service bank so you can get an ATM card and such as well. You can get some basic fund info and performance history on Millenniumā€™s website here by searching ā€œPortugalā€ in the ā€œSearch by nameā€ section.

Hi Kim,

Sure, here is the document Acoes_Portugal_EN_Mar2021.pdf (596.6 KB)

We liked the fund because if we want to liquidate after 5 years, we can sell the shares. Other funds were a bit more difficult in that you needed to find a buyer and sell them directly to them.

Bison was easy to open an account. We are US citizens but UK residents, so we had documents that need an Apostille from 2 different countries and it was still pretty easy to do.

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Hi Kevin, I have heard mixed stuff about Millennium also. I wouldnā€™t worry about ATM cards and such, just get a Transferwise account and you can keep various currencies and access any ATM.

@joseph.c.lapierre can I know why you choose IMGA AƧƵes Portugal fund ? do you have more reason ? would love to hear your opinion! too many fund, and so difficult to choose!

I Canā€™t Find IMGA listed with the Security Regulator as a legitimate fund for GV on their site.
https://web3.cmvm.pt/english/sdi/capitalrisco/pesquisa_nome_fcr.cfm
Have you been able to confirm they are listed?

Many thanks, Joe. Appreciate your bringing up the open-ended fund option. Will look into it more. As Jeff B says: More research! But thereā€™s still some time before a decision has to be madeā€¦

That list is private equity/venture capital funds. The IMGA AƧƵes Portugal fund is an investment fund, not a private equity fund. You can find a list of CMVM registered investment funds here and it includes the IMGA funds.

You should confirm with your lawyer, but what makes a fund qualify for GV purposes isnā€™t simply that it is registered with CMVM, but rather that at least 60% of the value of the investments be made in commercial companies based in the PT as required by the law.

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IMGA funds are listed under Securities investment funds:
https://web3.cmvm.pt/english/sdi/fundos/app/pesquisa_nome_fundos_shp.cfm?nome=&src=shp

And the IMGA AƧƵes Portugal fund:
https://web3.cmvm.pt/english/sdi/fundos/app/ficha_fundo.cfm?num_fun=%23%23%24_T

But yes, Iā€™d ask your lawyer to double check itā€™s legit for GV.

I can confirm a letter was generated to our lawyers for SEF with the details that meet the ARI (Golden Visa) program for investment. Not sure why it isnā€™t listed on the site?

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Correct, this one is 100% invested in Portuguese Stock exchange companies and meets the GV requirements, but isnā€™t just a ā€œGV Fundā€.

@Azar we chose it because we can exit it any time we want. Also because it is open-ended and has a history since 1995.

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Thanks Joseph,
Question, I donā€™t know if you are a US Citizen, but if so does the fund provide a PFIC statement for US Tax filing purposes?
Examples of a PFIC statement from Vanguardā€™s Canadian funds is here: Vanguard Canada

Wow i dont know there are website to check fund qualify or not , so useful