When GV ppl start winning the 5 year citizenship timeline lawsuit, i will start suit again.
Portugal GV is pay to play.
Pay to win.
Pay pay pay.
Money money money for them.
When GV ppl start winning the 5 year citizenship timeline lawsuit, i will start suit again.
Portugal GV is pay to play.
Pay to win.
Pay pay pay.
Money money money for them.
So did you submit your child’s application at the same time as yours then? The second paragraph of your post makes it sound that way.
Assuming your child has their own GV, reaching 18 means they have to learn A2 Portuguese and apply under 6.1? Assuming they’ll still be in education and unmarried?
Also, I’m sure I’ve seen it said that the relevant date they need to be a minor is the date of application, not the date it’s processed?
My child’s was submitted immediately after the other parent got citizenship. I was delayed because I mysteriously lost a chunk of time with SEF/AIMA so it’s just a coincidence that it was more or less the same time.
If they have been resident on any basis (not just GV) for the required length of time, yes. BTW it looks like language and close connection are also already creeping into renewals - I’ve seen reports of people being asked to show proof that they are learning the language. If your 18 year old has done the time there is no need to be unmarried or in higher ed, or dependent in any way … they’re treated as any other adult 6.1 applicant.
100%. Also slightly different criteria at 13 and 16. For example, no criminal record required at 15 (because Portugal’s age of criminal liability is 16).
I thought the A2 Portuguese requirement applies once the child turns 16, not 18? Or is it only required at 18?
I received a response from the President’s Chief of Staff in the past few mins. ![]()
“Encarrega-me Sua Excelência o Presidente da República de acusar a receção e
agradecer a mensagem de correio eletrónico remetida por V. Exa. a 28 de outubro
de 2025, que mereceu a melhor atenção desta Casa Civil.”
His Excellency the President of the Republic has asked me to acknowledge receipt of and thank you for the email you sent on October 28, 2025, which has been given the utmost attention by this Office of the Chief of Staff.
It wasn’t much of a letter so I’m kinda surprised I heard anything at all.
I (and probably others) received the same ack a few days ago. Take it as a good sign that your note at least registered at the President’s office, and maybe someone summarises and feeds our concerns up to him.
Received as well.
That makes sense then. Thanks.
Definitely not so for Art 2 when we applied. But things do change - what makes you think so?
We have a thread about that here: New (2025 Oct) language and civics requirements for family members renewal
Would you mind posting more details there?
The bill has been finalized by the committee with some minor changes, see redação final: 2025-11-05 from here: https://www.parlamento.pt/ActividadeParlamentar/Paginas/DetalheIniciativa.aspx?BID=315160
The most beneficial change since the parliament version seems that instead of requiring 10 years residence out of the last 10 years, it is now 10 years out of the last 12 years, which gives slightly more leeway for gaps.
The Decree also seems to now be published - see “2025-11-05 | Decreto (Publicação)” at https://www.parlamento.pt/ActividadeParlamentar/Paginas/DetalheIniciativa.aspx?BID=315160
Beyond what’s already been discussed in the 1500+ posts above…
Artigo 6(9) - sports/movie star and other amazing people exemption ![]()
Artigo 6(11) - criminal records, from everywhere you’ve lived as an adult (is this new?) ![]()
I mean… we’ve all rendered services to the state, no? Isn’t that the purpose of the ARI program? I think that this is how Malta restructured their golden visa, and I can’t help but hope that this is a workaround that keeps them from having to defend different treatment for an unpopular program.
Think it needs to be an “extraordinary” contribution to PT.
Speaking of which, I wonder how Nicole Kidman’s AIMA application is progressing? Anybody spotted her camped outside Av. António Augusto de Aguiar lately? ![]()
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its literallhy your resident permit, this is how they decide if you are a resident for purpopses of citizenship. this is how the goldenvisa allows you to apply for citizenship. there is no special citizenship rule for golden visas.
Me too. Like many things here it is a function of
more than anything. ![]()
ok reason number 2 convinced me ![]()
Btw, just for anyone from India angling for Portuguese citizenship via Gold visa.. here’s another reason to not do it. A bunch of USA ESTAs were revoked today for (so far) PT citizens who were born in India but naturalized as Portuguese.
No reasons given.
https://www.reddit.com/r/immigration/comments/1oq3lrx/esta_status_changed_and_travel_not_authorized/
There was no announcement, so it’s hard to say why. Not clear whether this is something the PT govt nodded to (revoke ESTAs for Indian born PT citizens) or the US decided it themselves. The visa waiver program is usually quite collaborative (especially when it comes to staying in it..) so an interesting new development.
Not clear if people born anywhere else have been targeted yet but definitely seems like PT as a country is targeted because no other cases of revocations from other EU countries have come to light.
Only naturalized? There are also many from Goa in India who are eligible for Portuguese citizenship by descent, because Portugal used to claim Goan territory and extended citizenship to those born there.